I had a chance to ride the 450

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A friend who owns a BS6 411 bought the new 450, put everything on it that is available (fuelx pro+ and Powertronic) and handed it to me for a brief test ride.
I went for the backroad here, the "elephant road" - a nice test stretch for an off road bike with lots of narrow curves and occasional sandy stretches.

A few observations:

1) The brakes are really good although the position of the rear pedal is unfortunate, I cant put my foot over it, just next to it, so if I need to brake quickly I have to shift the foot quite a bit.
2) I could only accelerate to 80 because of traffic on the main road - and up to that speed the 500 "old" BS3 Hima is equal if not a bit faster
3) sitting position is so-so. It was kinda comfy for the first 15 minutes but then increasingly hard to sit without shifting on the seat
4) handling in curves is nice and similar if not a bit easier than the BS3 - although the Indian tires suck - not RE's fault. I bet its way better with Metzelers or Heidenaus
5) The engine sound is horrible (original exhaust) - reminds me of a sewing machine. nothing to write home about!
6) The bike is high and the center of gravity is also high - that makes it more agile but also less stable. On top of this a 172cm person with sports shoes can only reach the ground tip-toeing. Maybe with boots with large soles it is better. The seat was on middle position (out of 3)
7) the engine's power is developing quite late. nothing happens below 2000rpm. so old Hima riders need to learn to do it the KTM way. when I turned into our road on the way home from the national highway - that road immediately has a steep incline. I killed the engine trying to go up at 2000rpm in 2nd. I had to re-start it and it was a VERY wobbly and uncomfy moment with my toes just holding the bike upright. A less experienced rider would have probably dropped it.

Not much more I can say after a 30 minutes ride but my take away is: I am not really interested in getting one. Here in India I mean. In Germany I would, because the top speed there is a factor - but here it isn't. 100kmh is all you want. max.
 
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A day later few more impressions come to mind:

8) The bike feels massive. More akin to a big BMW GS than the old Hima. That may be on purpose but I do not like it and neither will the small person looking for an off road bike. I imagine it to be quite intimidating to a new rider. The other day I could watch a young lady with a BMW GS 310 struggle in heavy narrow traffic, she managed to throw the bike twice within 100m distance. The BMW is less massive than the new Hima.
Maneuvering the bike by hand is not an easy task either, obviously.
9) the instruments show you some stuff but not all stuff I want to see. granted I could switch between modes but I bet that I want to see data not shown in a moment when it is inconvenient to switch. It is beyond me why RE as a "classic bike" producer has to play this stupid "lets have a TV as instrument panel" game. How hard can it be to just give us the old instrument panel of the 411 plus maybe an oil thermometer and a voltmeter. That would be useful. This display is shit. And again: people who can afford this bike can afford a mobile phone for google maps instead of a gimmick that takes ALL engine information off your eyes to show you where you are.
10) on a positive note: the sidestand is very good. even better than the bs6 Hima 411 one.
11) on a positive note: the tank is what the 411 Hima tank should have been: 17+ liter. and the knees naturally glue themselves to the tank without any effort - a very nice and secure riding position on winding roads.
12) of course no kickstart. This bike has a higher compression compared to the old 411, consequently pushing it and "hopping on" to start it is out of the question. Why the FUCK did RE have to save those 500 rupees when designing the bike??? because everybody else also does it? not a good argument in my book.
 
I eventually threw my leg over the new Himalayan at a Dealership today.
Getting it up of the side stand was not easy!
I felt no need to ask for a test ride I would not touch this with a Barge Pole, no offence to those that have purchased one.
Getting back on my 411(443) I rode off hitting my 7500rpm rev limiter in first and second gear then on to the freeway where I joined the traffic in third gear and accelerated past a few cars before dropping into fourth.
100kph in fourth is quite comfortable with this engine but I eventually slipped it into fifth to save fuel:cool:
The ride home from the Dealership was full of wondering why I would part with such a beast to get a Pig!
 

Great video shows how easy it is ride the new Himalayan :ROFLMAO:

5ft 11 inches and he could not get it off the side stand!
 
Itchy Boots WAS interesting, in her first year. Now she is a moving advertising platform. Some people think advertising is information sharing - a guy I know once said.
I am btw. "five foot eight" or in German: 172 cm - and I had no problem getting the bike off the stand. But sitting on it in slow traffic is nowhere near as relaxing as on a Meteor or Hunter or even the old Himalayan.
One of the reasons I went for the Guerilla - lower seat and less weight and not top heavy.
 
I watched a Video last night that amongst other things, explained why the side stand is as it is.
Turns out so many things were developed at the same time but the side stand was designed early on and by the time the whole bike was put together it was too late to rectify, probably get better in the second edition.
 
Guerrilla pricing here in Australia has been released.
Bullet is 8k Guerrilla 8.7k !
 
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